Party Time

Sorry it has been so long since our last post-- we have been having so much fun we just don't seem to find the time to update everyone. Here is a brief recap of the past few weeks:

We had a wonderful Halloween weekend. Kellen came to class with mom to hand out candy on Halloween to the overgrown kids she teaches. On Friday night we went trick or treating as a farm; mom was a cow, dad was a farmer, Kellen was a goat and Murphy was a dog. We overestimated how many homes we could hit but Kellen's favorite was at Grandma Jean's where he got a jar of applesauce. Talk about a treat :)

On Saturday we had a wonderful fall party with celebrated with a great showing of both friends and family. Kellen enjoyed the hay ride and had tons of fun showing some of the newbies around the house. The weekend rounded out on Sunday with Kellen getting baptized.

The first week in November Kellen had his first experience going to vote-- he is learning how luck we really are to live in the USA.

Grandma Mac spent the next week here in Minnesota with us since dad was very busy deer hunting. Kellen is still very confused as to why dad dresses up like a tree, and freezes his ass off in the woods and even at 5 months with limited distance vision Kellen seems to see as many deer from the house. Never the less- dad and grandma Harry both got a buck so all was well in our household.

This weekend, mom went to a play with some WSU friends and Kellen enjoyed some time with Grandma Becks. Saturday mom watched Logan and Riley and decided that she probably needs to have her tubes tied. The saving grace was that Riley was my little helper and Kellen spent most of the afternoon in his new jumparoo. Speaking of the jumparoo, it was a rather interesting craigslist purchase when I arrived and the front porch of the house had a rather pungent smell. It was a dairy farm and little Flower the jersey calf was living on the front porch. Dad swears if mom finds any more "deals" that require 2 hours of clean up he might take away all buying privileges.

As we speak, Kellen is having a great time watching Rodeo on TV--- his has got his jumparoo parked in front of the tv and has been working on throwing his hands in the air as if he just finished tying a calf. Dad thinks it is funny how mom's rule of no TV just went out the window for about an hour.

That's all for now-- gotta start to pay attention to the barrel racing. Happy Trails!

We live here because???

Kellen is confused why we live in Minnesota.... the Vikes suck and so does the weather! It isn't even even Halloween and we had our first snow fall.

Another crazy busy week that has flown by. Thursday night we met Ann Mac, Theresa, Karen and Alma for happy hour and dinner at Jeffersons. We learned from Alma that eating fruit is good for you and helps you poop. Kellen filed that piece of advice away for now since his mean mom won't even let him eat applesauce anymore. Kellen also got to meet some of mom's party friends Skupa and Cindy as we were leaving. He really enjoyed them and thought they were rather funny even at 7:30 p.m.

Kellen had a great time with Grandma Beck's on Friday night. Mom went to a concert with Jojo and the mom's drank a little too much. Sure does work to get a great night sleep we both found. Neither Jolene or I were aware if our children woke up during the early am hours. Don't worry before you turn us in to social services, the dad's were home and we didn't drive!

Texas is the favorite outfit on college football Saturday. In fact, Kellen wore one of his Texas outfits to church today because he worries people might make fun of him if he keeps wearing the Vikes outfits... even prayers aren't helping.

Saturday Kellen enjoyed going out to lunch with David and Anne and we had a great fun. Kellen took in his first WSU volleyball game with Jojo, Mic, Deb and Addie. It was great to see everyone and meet Addie- Kellen thought she was hot.

On Sunday Kellen tried to make a snow angel on the deck with his cousins Tyler and Colin. Although it was great fun, what the hell are we living here for again??

We are going to have to change the theme of our party from BYOB to BYO sled. Seriously.....

Lovin life

Kellen had another busy week filled with lots of new learning. We had an appointment with his new pediatrician at Gunersen and learned that nearly all 4 month old babies can sleep through them night-- it is in fact that parents that prevent them from doing so. At the time I was thinking-- dude I assure you we make no unnecessary noise from our end of the house when the little one is sleeping (not sure if I or Andy would have spit that out first). So boot camp it was going to be. Kellen had been doing great sleeping from around 7 until 6:30 until a few weeks back when he acquired a stuffy nose and couldn't figure out how to breath through his mouth. Well he must have heard us threatening because with virtually no intervention he is sleeping through the night again. What a great learning-- what mom and dad says.... Kellen does. Oh if it were only that easy!

Kellen weighed in at 13 1/2 pounds so still on the tall and skinny side of life. Everything else checked out great and both of us really liked the new peds doctor. Of course I was hoping for someone who looked like Dr. Mcdreamy but a very knowledgeable geek will do.

On Wednesday Jolene and I braved our first night alone at Bergies with 3 kids under 2. Went okay and for some reason we only had Diet Coke. Should have had a few beers to settle our fears!

This weekend we spent some time around the house, Andy started cleaning the garage (no laughing when and if you ever see it) we take small baby steps around here to improving things. Might just secretly turn us in to one of those HGTV shows where you sell your shit to make other improvements around the house. Saturday night we went to a bonfire at Corey and Jo's new house and checked out Jo's parents camper. Seriously bigger than our house on Kansas Street but a great time had by all.

Sunday we took in early church and a waffle breakfast (just what both our diets called for) and enjoyed the nice day. Andy was "dying" from a cold so Kellen and I went on a road trip in the afternoon so he could rest. Thank god he made it through and we picked up an exersaucer along the journey. Kellen is fascinated with it and Murphy can't figure out how he can spin around in it. Sunday evening Riley, Kellen and Logan hung out while we grilled out and enjoyed a few beverages. Hoping that Kellen will pick up on Riley's eating habits as the kid won't stop eating broccoli and squash. Perhaps we could try the threat again to see if it might work!

Kellen got a new sweatsuit and bib from Grandma Beck's. She returned from Florida with Holly and her family. Kellen just loves the bib that says, Grandma bought this with Grandpa's money in Florida.

In addition to his time with Murphy, outside time with Dad, Kellen's new favorite pastime is is playing the piano. Perhaps a musician on our hands already! Just hope he can sing better than any of us can. Murphy might have the best voice in the house!

Getting ready for Halloween- Kellen has about 10 Halloween shirts since Dad is fond of orange and the fact that it looks great under camouflage. You know the kid is going to be made fun of when half of his wardrobe comes from fleet-farm or Cabella's. Thank god for our kind friends who donate the rest of his "normal" clothes so Andy isn't totally in charge of the closet.

That's all for this week- hope you are planning to come celebrate with Kellen at the Fall party!

What a week and what is the deal with these bugs

It was just a wonderful week to be Kellen-- grandma mac visited from Tuesday to Saturday and they did all kinds of fun things. Kellen had a few observations after the visit....

1) Kellen thinks he is going to need to eat at least one squash per week for the next year. Grandma Harry should not confuse the pumpkins with the squash when planting the garden next year. We would have had a hell of a pumpkin patch but instead we will all be eating squash for the next year and a half. But thanks to grandma mac for freezing it all!

3) Grandma Mac makes up more words to song that you can imagine. Kellen will never learn the mouth it Watermelon technique because he will just think you can make up whatever you want when you don't know the words.

4) Even though Dad says we should eat green beans first Kellen loves when Grandma Mac feeds him because he get a fully tummy on apple sauce and can skip the green beans. He wishes she would stay forever.

5) Grandma Mac's antique trips are for the birds. Grandma met mom in Rochester to look at an "antique table". Needless to say we couldn't find the place and not sure a GPS would have even helped with a screaming demon in the back seat. I guess Kellen has already been brainwashed by Grandpa JB and dad to make our antique hunting trips miserable. To top it off the table was not even an antique so all this for nothing.

6) Grandma shouldn't buy Halloween costumes so early in the year. Kellen had his heart set on being a giraffe but as you can see it is a bit small (unless giraffe's don't have spots on the bottom of their legs). Might have to hand that one on to Logan. Could be the cutest giraffe I ever saw (but perhaps I am biased).

In addition to the fun, Kellen went to his cousin's school with his Grandma Becks on Friday. Kellen went to dad's friend Drew's wedding on Saturday night. Needless to say it was a short trip because Dad did not believe Mom when she told him it might not be a good idea to take Kellen out at bedtime. So we left at 7:30 (just 15 min past bedtime) and dad got to learn the hard way (men....). At least mom and dad got to go to bed early to catch a few extra hours of shut eye.

On Sunday we went to church and Kellen misbehaved again (perhaps we will get asked to leave before we even join the church). Kellen had a great day with his dad, hauling wood, going to see Uncle Tom and Grandpa Dano to shoot guns and feeding the pigs. Sunday night Grandpa Harry and Granny Jay came for dinner and to visit. All and all it was another great week expect the bugs are bothering Murphy and that is disturbing to Kellen.

Eating new things and hanging with my friends

It was another busy and fast week for Kellen. Once again mom's friends forgot to tell her that when you first try the whole cereal thing, it will take at least an hour and require at minimum an outfit change and perhaps even a bath for the child and perhaps the feeder as well. Thanks again guys...... what would we do with out you.

Kellen does seem to enjoy his cereal though-- as you can see from the picture we wear about as much as we eat-- if he doesn't spit it out simultaneously when the spoon enters the mouth he barfs the rest up as usual. Looking forward to our visit the his new pediatrician and hoping they have some magic barf pill. Perhaps his mom can use it to next time she drinks too much.

Kellen had a very busy weekend in Dubuque. He hung out with Karen, Kim, Kelly and Ryan on Friday night. Saturday we went to farmers market, then to Loras homecoming and to the Chili cook off. Kellen forgot to wear his" are these people really my relatives" shirt as we ran into mom's cousin's Jana, Jason, Brennen, Jessica, Corey and family, Tami, Marty and kids and Aunt Jan and Uncle "won't come to my house to fix anything" Jon. Great time had by all and Kellen tried beer for the first time. Can't believe his dad and grandma JB weren't there but he seemed to enjoy it and mellowed out quite a bit after 3 drops.

Saturday evening we had dinner with Jan, Jon & Carolyn and John-- Kellen is still very confused what to think of Grandma John Haupert. He might take the lead from Murphy and keep his distance from the crazy man :)

Sunday was a kid filled day. We went to Brad and Dana's to see Nancy's new baby Ella, along with Ken and Elaine. Ella is just beautiful and Kellen enjoyed her company. We then packed up the mom-mobile and headed north to have dinner with Angie, Mitch, Blake and Jaeger & Jo, Corey, Riley and Logan. Talk about a house filled with boys. Blake was a busy guy and enjoyed marching around the house to the sound of his shoes hitting the hard floors. Riley didn't know what the hell to think of Blake running around and was pretty content playing with his diggers. Logan slept through the whole thing and Kellen just took it all in. Mom put the final nail in the coffin on having some more little ones and Murphy is having bad dreams about Kellen being 1 some day. It was great to see everyone and had a wonderful meal. Not sure how 10 years ago mom, Ang and Jojo were chasing boys (and what we thought we would gain if we caught one..... still haven't figured that out yet). And today here we are still chasing boys (ones that seem to all act a little bit like their dads). Felt a little alone drinking as Jojo isn't quite up to it yet and Angie was more interested in the caffeine free diet coke as opposed to the Bush NA. All and all a great time and even though we collectivly live 1 hour from each other it takes a miricle of god to schedule a time we can all gather together.

Should be another beautiful week filled with lots of fun as Grandma Mac is coming for a few days. Kellen will undoubtidly add to his book or learning toy collection as gram will have a few days to load up the car before arriving on Tuesday. Murphy is especilaly looking forward to seeing her as his dad forgot to bring Murphy when he met mom in LaCrosse on Friday to depart for Dubuque. I think fogetting the kid might have gone over better with Grandma JB---- Murphy did enjoy the piece of quite however.

Have a great week and more updates to come!

Pumpkins galore

Well despite the deer a few pumpkins survived in the deer plot to make it to harvest time. We found one really special pumpkin in the patch-- resting from a very busy weekend.

On Friday we went to visit Kellen's new best friend baby Logan. He was born on Friday afternoon and we stopped to say hello and introduce ourselves.

Saturday mom and dad attempted (key word) to play golf (as if what we were doing was really a sport) in the Groth open. Not much luck golfing but Kellen had a great time at Grandma Donna's and took in time with Amy and all the cousins.

Saturday night we had a bean bag tournament (now this resembled a sport much more than golfing) with the Groth clan. Kellen enjoyed seeing everyone and was a bit mad that his mom and dad offered little leniency on his bedtime ( Andy was almost ready to get out the Halloween sign where you can change the sign from the Witch in IN or OUT. If you could get through our garage to find it he might make it a permanent decoration around here).

Sunday we went to church where Kellen modeled his behavior after his dad and uncle Casey in the day. Apparently at even 14 weeks they can figure out if you misbehave you can go someplace else. Hopefully this will change in time although I think Andy prefers to get up and leave to this day.

After church we went to visit Logan again and then off to Grandma Dano's farm e-i-e-i-o to check on the 6 pigs he bought. To date Kellen knows 5 verses to the Grandma Dano's farm song.... with a moo moo here and a moo moo there, and a neigh here and a neigh there and a ruff, ruff here and a ruff, ruff there and a meow meow here and a meow meow there AND NOW and oink-oink here and an oink-oink there. God only knows what is next........

That about wraps up the week-- Kellen has enjoyed the beautiful weather and hopes it continues for about another 51 weeks.

Week 12 (so we missed a few in between)

Once again I have found that all of you have lied.... or at least withheld information. The idea that you can get the same amount of things accomplished while taking care of a 10 pound being just isn't true. The blog is just one of the great many things that have been neglected around here the past 12 weeks (just ask Murph or come take a look at the dust bunnies in the corners). Never the less it has been a wonderful summer and as we get ready for fall to set in we look at it with new eyes (droopy with black circles under them usually). Andy has learned that Kellen really doesn't care to build deer stands (if that only holds true for another 18 years, I will be in luck). On the contrary Kellen seems to behave quite well when his mom is riding horses so perhaps this is a sign. God knows even us crazy horse people don't stuff the horses we love and nail them up to a wall so horses it will be for Kellen.



I will try to catch everyone up since it has been a while for many of you. Here are the month by month highlights.

July

Kellen made his first trip home to Iowa for the 4th of July. He had a great time meeting all of his Iowa family and friends and his uncle Casey who was home from Texas.

Kellen went to his first rodeo and Grandpa JB is to start looking for a nice little calf roping pony---- children with really nice horses rarely want to ride bulls.

Kellen went on his first hay ride and took part in Grandpa Harry and Granny Jay's camp out. He seemed to enjoy it especially since a red (not green) tractor pulled the hay wagon. Kellen enjoyed meeting Aunt Jodi and Uncle Mike and spending time with Amy, Brandon and Kari.

Kellen spent lots of time with his friend Riley and they had great fun watching the Ridgeway fire dept. burn Riley's "new house" to make room for the real new house.

Mom's girlfriends from work had a lovely get together and they all brought some very nice books for Kellen. He enjoys reading books almost as much as playing with Murphy. Grandma Mac visited for the week and we had lot and lots of fun.

Mom and Kellen went to Wisconsin Rapids to visit friends Mark, Lindsay and crew. Kellen hit the motherload on hand-me-downs and his mom is jealous that he has more clothes now than she does.

Kellen also tried to help mom and grandpa Harry plant the garden (more on that damn idea later).

August

Kellen spent about 2 weeks helping his mom and dad (okay mostly his dad) fence in a pasture for the horses. He is quite content in the back of the 4 wheeler swinging away.

Kellen spent lots of time at Grandma Donna's, Grandma Becks, Aunt Holly's, Shirley's and anyone else who would take him when he got sick of fencing. Mom was made to feel 100 when Avery and Emma (two little girls mom babysat for in college) came to watch him one day. Auntie Katy came one weekend and helped to watch after him too.

Kellen had people out to grill out almost every weekend. Mom and Dad enjoyed the company and despite all Mom is sort of starting to learn how to cook. She might be a fast learner but that doesn't apply in the cooking dept. and god knows Kellen will need to eat in the next year. Thankfully in the past 30 years I have mastered Mac and Cheese and PB and J so hopefully those are favorites!

Grandma Mac visited for another week prior to her departure to Texas to visit uncle Casey. Mom and Dad were lucky enough to inherit Gus--- never getting two dogs (or two kids for that matter).

Kellen had to get his first round of shots and he thought it really sucked. He thinks he is exposed to enough dirt that his immune system will be perfect - any shots.

Kellen went to many picnics (RTP for dad's work, Winona State and UW- Lacrosse College of Business). He doesn't think much of leaving potato salad out for hours either so not sure lots of these will be in his future.

September

Kellen helped mom and dad cut wood for the first time (and unless we win the lotto he will do so for the next 100 years if he wants to be warm in the winter). He was a trooper and just swung the day away.

We now have college football Saturday's and football Sunday. Kellen is usually confused on what to wear on these days and mom and dad argue until each one gets to pick on part of the outfit resulting in ridiculous looking sports apparel.

Auntie Katy stopped in for a visit and Kellen updated her on what was new in his life.

Grandma Mac came for another week and Kellen is still amazed that she can stick her tongue out. Given that Kellen inherited his mom's IQ he should figure it out yesterday.

Kellen checks the garden (aka deer plot) daily and it goes down in history as the worst garden ever. The deer have to date eaten 8 tomato plants, 2 egg plants, several green peppers, only a few jalapenos (serves the bastards right), lots of squash and now the pumpkins. Mom is working on mixing up a little strick nine tastee treat for them.

Every Wednesday night is pizza night at Bergie's. Kellen enjoys mingling with the locals (always an eclectic mix of individuals) and mom, Jolene and Riley enjoy their 5.00 pizza's and getting the hell out of the house. Kellen is excited for his new friend Logan to make his way into the world next Friday.

Well that's all for now folks-- besides a promise to update this thing a bit more often (hell you can always improve from horrible). Kellen looks forward to adding to the memories the next time he is in your presence.

Week 2- sleeping and party time

Well we survived another week and the excitement of the week was the birthday party we had at the house on Friday night. It was Andy's 31st birthday on Thursday, Murphy will be 5 on July 4th and Kellen was 2 weeks old. Great fun was had by all!

Andy and I went shopping in La Crosse and although it this isn't Kellen's first camo outfit, it is the first one that fits.

Kellen got to meet his Aunt Kari this weekend and enjoyed spending time with her. He is looking forward to meeting all his Iowa relatives and friends this next weekend. He hopes Grandma Mac is up for the night shift again for at least one night :)

As you can see by the daylight in the photos we do a lot of sleeping during the day time and not so much at night.

Week 1--- 17 years 51 weeks to go.

Now it seems as though the countdown starts over- we begin counting the weeks as parents and although having a dog was supposed to kind of prepare you in some small way for this no practice in the world could do the trick.



My first thoughts as I signed that our kid really was ours as we left the hospital is "they really let you just leave with this thing". Getting a dog at least involved some background checking-- why in the world would an educated medical professional let someone as stupid as us out into the real world with the responsibility for this kid? Thank god that Andy is an old pro and knows what to do 99% of the time and has been a very patient teacher.



This week we broke every rule in the book and I vow to never say never. After reading faithfully Baby Wise (a book on how to establish a sleep pattern for life) we abandoned anything it suggested and have brought Kellen to bed with 7 out of 10 nights so far (he slept with my mom 2 of the other nights). He did sleep in his bassinet last night so hopefully we will get on the right track this week.

Week 1 was filled with lots of firsts for Kellen, Andy and I. The week flew by and somehow we are all still alive and speaking to each other. My mom came for 3 nights which was a great relief and Andy's mom has been able to stop by lots of days and help out too. Kellen got his first bath which he seems to enjoy for the most part and even though it is probably just chance, I am convinced that if he gets a bath at night he sleeps better so here starts the rule breaking again- he is getting a bath every night if that is what it takes. Other notable firsts include...... (in no particular order)

1. First camo outfit thanks to the fact that Cabella's is in route from Dubuque to Winona (thanks alot Grandma Mac)


2. Dad's first day at back at work (not sure who was more sad, Dad, Mom or Kellen)


3. First jackpot find on clothes thanks to a friend from mom's work who had a boy a year ago and was kind enough to give us everything and then some.


4. First trips to Walmart, Target, Winona State, RTP, consignment store, TGI Friday's, Culvers, and Hy-Vee
5. First happy hour (probably not the last either)with the ladies from Winona State at Bub's


6. First truck ride to Grandma Becks and Grandpa Dano's to fix a wagon to load our hay on


7. First trip to Grandma Donna's house and sure enough she was baking (not so good for Mom's diet)


8. First 4-wheeler ride to go visit Grandma Jaye and Grandpa Harry (and help dad fix a flat tire on the baler)


9. First night sleeping from midnight until 6:00 last night (yeah :)


10. First rainbow today while mom and dad were arguing about where to place the transplanted perennials from the Kansas Street house.


11. Mom's first step on the scale (what a frightening thing)-- even though the idea of it being summer and not having to tie my shoes because you could wear sandals seemed ideal towards the end of pregnancy, winter and baggy sweatshirt weather can't come fast enough now.


12. First time in my life that I did not want bigger boobs- and I thought the pregnant boobs were bad- I could have got a job dowtown with these things earlier this week. If I ever consider the idea of a boob job in the future someone please remind me of these days and I will quickly come to my senses.

So a busy week for all of us. In addition to the Kellen milestones, we think we sold our house on Kansas street. Accepted an offer and they had an inspection on Saturday so we will cross our fingers and say a few prayers that everything turns out this time. We would close on July 14th which would be great. Although this weekend was steamboat days and we didn't not fit in our usual beer tent times and fireworks on the river, we had a great week being parents and are looking forward to what's ahead this week!

Liars and the hospital stay

Well this is going to be a long one....... I actually was in the middle of writing a post last Wednesday night when my water broke, the computer got left on the bed, the battery went dead and the submit button never got pushed. That was only the beginning!

After working in Rochester all day on Wednesday, I came home, watched super nanny, had a pb and j and then was doing some computer work when it occurred to me that I had either pissed the bed or something else was going on. After determining that I had not pissed the bed, Andy got home from work and we packed up our stuff and off we went. Got checked into the hospital just after midnight and spent a few hours walking around, watching some late night cable TV and had about enough at 3:00 am and went for the epidural (little did I know it would be one of four). Even though they give you the little button when you feel like you want more pain meds, by 8:00 a.m. I decided either the button didn't work or I was really going nuts. After some evaluation, they redid my epidural (which made for 3 attempts because the first try didn't get into the right spot). Spend the rest of the morning trying to rest and prepare for what was ahead. Amazingly I had been up since 5:00 a.m. on Wednesday but somehow the eyelids were still open.

By noon the midwife had decided it was time to start pushing-- for all of my girlfriends who didn't tell the real story about pushing- God will catch up with you someday. Although I wish I could explain some of the maneuvers that were involved with this process, lets just leave it at that I am no gymnast and this part just sucked overall. After about 2 hours of this nonsense, the midwife said that she had one more idea that she hasn't used in a long time- sitting on a commode. So in the nurse comes with a portable toilet. I think the idea was to just use it to make some progress but after about 2 minutes of this technique, I told her and Andy that I thought the head was out, and sure enough it was. Good deal you may think, but remember my legs don't work at this time so we went from 1 nurse and 1 midwife in the room to about 15 people in no time! So Kellen's story begins, he was born with his head in the toilet at 2:12 pm.

The rest of Thursday afternoon was spent in clean up mode (who goes to nursing school for 4 years to have do deal with that mess?). Both of our parents were able to join us by about 4:00 and although at the time I thought I had survived this all in one piece, when I look at the pictures from that day, clearly the drugs must have still been affecting my perception! Some friends from work stopped by and in hindsight I have come to realize they too are liars as they said I looked great and it couldn't be farther from the truth :)

Andy came home Thursday night to take care of Murphy and introduce him to a blanket we had wrapped Kellen in. Needless to say Murphy pissed on the blanket and has been pissed at us ever since.

Friday was filled visitors and the day flew by! All in all I was coming to terms with the fact that my body not only looked (but in fact felt) like it had been through hell and back. An innocent 4 year old friend asked why my belly still looked like there was a baby in there and I was wondering the exact same thing (still am).

Saturday we planned on coming home shortly after lunch but our stay got extended when I got a spinal headache from the epidural. What a joke-- lying flat in bed was the only option for most of the morning. I got a blood patch which involved getting another epidural and then drawing blood from my arm and putting it in the epidural to cover the other 3 holes in my spine. Not the most pleasant of processes but within about 5 minuites the headache was gone.

The rest of Saturday invovled getting checked out of the hospital (you might be able to get checked in there quick but getting out is no small task) and we got home around 4:30. Murphy really wasn't sure what to think and spent the rest of the afternoon and evening smelling, licking and just looking over his new roomate.

That is where we will leave the birthing process chapter of this story--- my girlfriends are all liars, I think people who do this au natural need an non-au natural examination of their heads becuase they have scientifically altered brains, and if Andy ever thinks of looking at me in any such way (drunk or not) that might lead to this same outcome the world will be minus one 30 year old man.